[Z3lab] About collaboration on this project

Julien Anguenot ja at nuxeo.com
Thu May 12 12:05:28 CEST 2005


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Paul Everitt wrote:
> 
> I think the idea of bootstrapping is sound.  I'd like to addin that 
> bootstrapping should include some questions of "governance".   A  project
> that produces good code but bad cooperation is worse than a  project
> producing bad code and good cooperation.  Hopefully we have  good
> results for both. :^)

We don't want to produce code right now but specifications in a
discussion process. If people do want to code at that same time for
proof of concept no problem.

Personally, I don't want to see the IP, license and all political issues
stoping devels from starting the project. It can be handle in paralel
The documents will be under open source licenses anyway. I can't be an
issue or can it ?

> 
> Thus, we need a phase where we assemble the people and projects that 
> are interested and build up a culture of shared decision-making.   
> Some
> of these people spent quite a bit of money (and time) to come to 
> Paris.  Let's respect that initial show of commitment and make sure 
> they feel welcome.
>

The question now is : who's willing to commit ressources on this ecm
project right now  ? (wherever the svn will be, whatever the website is,
 whatever the license is etc....)


	J.

> --Paul
> 
> On May 11, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
> 
>> Eric Barroca wrote:
>>
>>
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>>> Hi !
>>>
>>>
>>> I propose to use cps-project.org to cooperate on the project for
>>> document exchange and work.
>>> I have opened a workspace "ECMPlatform" on cps-project.org. All
>>> people that would like to cooperate are invited to join cps-project
>>> and drop me an email to be member of the workspace. The concept map
>>> is in.
>>>
>>> For now we created a directory in the Nuxeo's repository on http://
>>> svn.nuxeo.org/ (look for z3lab).
>>> With that setup we have a trac set up, nightly unit testing script
>>> and SVN HTTPS support.
>>> I think we can move elsewhere if we have those facilities.
>>>
>>> Does someone have any suggestions / objections on those points ?
>>>
>>> I apologize for the commando-style start of the project, but I think
>>> it's time to start (we already have waited too much), and we now have
>>> 2 people at Nuxeo to work fulltime on the project (Florent and
>>> Julien, say "Hi" :-).  JMO has also started the portlet and rendering
>>> engine.
>>> This is not a try to take over the world, just a try to set up a
>>> project and not waste time of our ressources. :-)
>>>
>>> I think it's time to work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> EB.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I also think that what is needed right now is a bootstrapping phase  and
>> having something to propose to get developers' and users' interest.
>> Contributions can be done in terms of code in svn, but at this
>> particular phase I believe that what is needed is overall conceptual
>> design, as opposed to the creation of generic framework components put
>> in a common repository that maybe work together.
>>
>> most of the time that I'm spending on cpsskins is not in writing the
>> code but in the conceptual design.
>>
>> that's basically where we are: we need an architecture design, and  this
>> is not necessarily attached to any specific svn repository. There  are so
>> many components involved that the chances are that they'll reside in
>> several repositories.
>>
>> PS: the cmaptool maps can be published on servers to let several  people
>> contribute on the same maps. here are the ones that I have
>> http://www.cps-project.org/sections/projects/z3lab/
>> cpsskins_cpsportlets/conceptual_maps
>>
>> cheers /JM
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