[Z3lab] hosting options

Jean-Marc Orliaguet jmo at ita.chalmers.se
Fri May 13 19:10:55 CEST 2005


Martijn Faassen wrote:

> Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
>
>> Martijn Faassen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
>>> [snip Trac is invaluable advocacy]
>>>
>>> You've been using Trac in production for one (1) week now, right? :)
>>>
>>
>> there was another tracker before Trac: bugzilla and a cvstrac (though
>> not integrated).
>
>
> I agree an *issue tracker* is invaluable for this project on the long
> term. We've been running roundup for years now at Infrae.
>
>>>> But if the goal is to get the lowest possible level of service (i.e.
>>>> svn) just for the sake of preserving neutrality, what's the point?
>>>> neutrality is the opposite of action.
>>>
>>>
>>> Huh? There's plenty of action on codespeak, isn't there?
>>
>
>> I meant that focussing on 'neutrality' is sterile undertaking that
>> stiffles action, because no one dares make a move...
>
>
> What do you call the z3 base if not a move? :) It was explicitly
> motivated by neutrality.
>

yes, what makes is great is not its neutrality (put the base on the Moon
if you like instead of Mars) ==> it's the quality of the software you
find there that creates value, i.e. Five, etc...

> Anyway, I'm glad you dared to make a move, and you're right that we
> shouldn't let ourselves drown in discussion and nobody does anything.
> In this sense this is an ideal situation as we're having the
> discussion *and* actual stuff is happening. :)
>
> Let's see this discussion as about what the next steps should be, not
> about the move that already happened. I think we should take some
> steps towards neutrality, as it will help make us all feel comfortable
> to contribute.
>
> As to contribution, I've contributed too much to this discussion
> already, as I think I'm repeating myself repeatedly. :) I'll assume
> the steps are going to be taken eventually, and will work on more
> productive aspects now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn


Julien is going to post a mail about setting up a site, for the
documentation, drafts, PR, buzz, I've agreed to do the site design / layout.

regards /JM



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