[Z3lab] portal specifications

Julien Anguenot ja at nuxeo.com
Fri May 13 20:51:24 CEST 2005


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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Julien Anguenot wrote:
> [snip]
> 
>> Find below a proposal for the portal :
> 
> 
> [snip long list]
> 
> I am somewhat worried that doing all of this now will spread the content
> too thin. I.e. that there will be so many areas but with little actual
> content, so that someone visiting the site can click around a lot and
> not get to the meat quickly enough. This is not a good impression.

yup we can create the structure and open it to the public when we'll
have some content to put within. (rights restrictions)

It's just a working structure.

> 
> Could we focus initially on getting the content in a few limited places
> and see what shape it takes, then broaden out? I'm not saying this to
> limit technical requirements, for those who have followed the previous
> discussion. :)

ok no problem.

> 
> Concerning design content, we seem to have the following kinds of
> artifacts:
> 
> * mailing list.
> 
> * images, such as graphs and the like.
> 
> * textual documents.
> 

> * perhaps output of some design tµµols such as UML

yup forgot this.

> 
> We may also be able to pull in content by aggregrating in blogs from
> various people. Anything I'm missing?

Don't see anything else right now.

> 
> I myself tend to prefer restructured text documents in a svn repository
> for lightweight design that's tied in with code, as that is easy to
> edit, diff and version control, and easily accessible developers. Having
> the other artifacts near that makes it easier to manage. The advantage
> is that it's simple and that most people involved already know to deal
> with this.
>

- -1 for me on rst documents for specifications and design docs.

My idea with Dockbook and OOo is that we'll be able to have a
documentation quite easily in various formats and provide it directly to
the public while writing them. Nobody's in the Zope commnunity is really
good at documentation because we don't have a lot of available
ressources for writing it. (maybe Plone is an exception on this ;) )

As well, we have in here style sheets and helpers for OOo that can help
us generating dockbook directly from OOo. It's just a methodology to adopt.

And Dockbook is more sexy than rst while targeting outside developers ;)

This is an open question we need to discuss I agree.

> As for the website, my personal preference would be that we see this as
> a publication medium primarily and not as a collaboration medium. We
> could for instance use CPS for publishing "finished" design content to
> the web for public consumption and the like, and to draw new people into
> the project.
> 
> The alternative which I think is presented is to use the collaboration
> features of CPS to do this. I myself do not have a lot of experience
> with these. What do others think?

yup Why CPS ?

Because :

 1. It proposes everything almost out of the box. (Just need to add the
specific content types and the layout)
 2. Jean-Marc and I proposed to setup the portal and we can have it
running by this week-end.
 3. it proposes both collaborative and publication features all in one.

Let's not fight again for the the portal technology... :( but let's
focus on the functional aspect of this portal to have a productive
environement for us with a nice professional looking skin that can allow
us to start working next week.

The ultimate goal will be to migrate all this to a  Zope3 / ECM
technology in couple of months for dog food ;)

	J.

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Julien Anguenot | Nuxeo R&D (Paris, France)
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mail: anguenot at nuxeo.com; tel: +33 (0) 6 72 57 57 66
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