[Z3lab] http://www.z3lab.org

Stefane Fermigier sf at nuxeo.com
Tue May 17 10:39:53 CEST 2005


Paul Everitt wrote:
> 
> On May 17, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
> 
>> Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
>>
>>> HI!
>>> The folder structure for the front page is now ready:
>>> http://www.z3lab.org/
>>>
>>
>> Great job. Very nice site.
>>
>>
>>> Left box:
>>> --------------
>>> - Discussions  (Workspaces > Discussion forums )
>>>   This is the discussion forums (open to members)
>>>
>>
>> btw, I registered #z3lab on freenode for us to hang out on when on  
>> irc. I understand that some use jabber instead of irc, but i  figured 
>> what the heck... so it is available for those that want.
> 
> 
> I'm a little concerned about some of the branding efforts and names  
> being used.  I think we have 3 in play that are very much overlapping:
> 
> 1) Z3 Base.  In IRC, #z3base.
> 
> 2) Z3 ECMS.  The name of this project, where different CMS projects  
> work together.

I read "Z3ECM" on the page, not "Z3 ECMS".

> 3) Z3 Lab.  A URL (z3lab.org) and now, a channel #z3lab.
> 
> IMO, (1) and (2) directly overlap.  Also, the web page for Z3 ECMS  
> shouldn't have a portlet describing Z3 Labs as a project.  It is only  a 
> URL placeholder for Z3 ECMS.  OTOH, we can abolish "Z3 ECMS" as a  
> label, and say everything is about Z3 Lab.
> 
> In particular, I'd like to know the disposition of the work Philipp  and 
> Martijn did for Z3 Base.  A year ago, in advance of EuroPython,  they 
> setup and encouraged an area an area that is now being re- invented as 
> Z3 Lab.  All their work is now being forgotten, which  seems a pity.

We may need some more information about the Z3 Base from Martijn or 
Philip, but as far as I can see, the visible part of it is currently 
(according to http://codespeak.net/z3/):

- a very low traffic discussion mailing list 
(http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/z3) and a checkins mailing list

- an IRC channel (OK I'm not a big IRC user so I can't comment)

- a SVN with several interesing and active projects, some of which 
aren't publicised on the portal

- a bugtracker that is currently broken so I can't comment

I don't think their work is forgotten at all, and it is appreciated and 
will be used in the project, I'm sure.

What we've just set up is a collaborative portal an a mailing list to 
work on Z3ECM.

> Let's de-emphasize the branding Z3 Lab until we have a chance at  
> EuroPython to sort this all out.  

I don't care much about this kind of branding, as long as it is not 
called "goldegg" ;)

> Thus, let's stick to the existing  IRC 
> channel and remove the portlet.

I don't get it. We *need* some explanation about what our purpose is, 
otherwise how would people figure out.

The text currently says "The Z3Lab is a starting point to build the 
next-generation Open Source ECM Platform".

It doesn't describe z3lab.org as a project, but as a starting point for 
a project which we currently call "the next-generation Open Source ECM 
Platform", and I'd gladly call Z3ECM.

	S.

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